[feature.request] no minimize to tray

[biatche]

As topic says.

I have a dual-monitor setup. I don't need to minimize. I want it to be open always. Sometimes I press "win+d" to minimize everything or minimize by mistake (double click taskbar icon)..

Thanks!

[Jeff]

I've actually looked into this before and the way that Windows implements WinKey+D is a little strange -- that is, the program itself cannot prevent itself from being minimized (I can't remember the exact mechanics, but I think WinKey+D actually moves the desktop to the top or something like that).

I think my best alternative suggestion is to assign a global hotkey to open the PP window:
1) On PP's main menu, select Tools / PPtweaker
2) Select the "HotKeys" page
3) Select "Open POP Peeper" from the list and assign it a shortcut key

[biatche]

I can setup global hotkeys surely, in fact, i already have a lot of global hotkeys.... so add yet another?

Is there any reason why you wouldn't implement dont minimize to systray? or at the very least, you could keep the system tray icon but let it remain on taskbar too..

While unrelated to this topic, poppeeper doesn't remember its dual monitor position. my primary monitor is on the right, secondary on the left (potrait mode). i place poppeeper on my secondary monitor, top left. after reopening pop peeper, it starts top left of my primary monitor. (cant find its way back probably)

Poppeeper really has the ability to be one of the best mail software around... Hope to see you guys take user suggestions seriously.

[mjs]

In the meantime before Jeff gets back to your questions, if I may contribute to the discussion; as I understand it, because the WINKey shortcut combinations are a function of the Windows OS they cannot therefore be overridden by third 3rd party software that I'm aware of (if I'm wrong then Jeff will correct me on this). As an alternative, if you would be interested in either disabling the WIN+Key combinations or disabling the WIN key altogether and you want to instead only use your own personal shortcut key combinations exclusively then there is a way to do this via Windows. For an explanation on how to Disable All WIN+ Keyboard Shortcuts (Hotkeys) in Windows CLICK HERE. As to your other question, it would be my opinion that the Pop Peeper interface would load from where it is launched from, that said it would be best to wait for Jeff to answer this question as he would know more about this. In the meantime here is a link on the topic involving dual monitors that provides a lot of suggestions: assign apps to a monitor.

Exclusive of using a suggested app to do what you want this was posted and reportedly did work for someone on that help page linked above:
If you want an app to open on your secondary monitor by default do the following:
1. Open the application.
2. Re-size the window so that it is not maximized or minimized.
3. Move the window to the monitor you want it to open on by default.
4. Close the application. Do not re-size prior to closing.
5. Open the application.
It should open on the monitor you just moved it to and closed it on.
6. Maximize the window.
The application will now open on this monitor by default. If you want to change it to another monitor, just follow steps 1-6 again.

[biatche]

ive done a workaround for the minimize to tray problem by pinning the program to taskbar. i can also write an ahk script if i really wanted it to be done properly. but of course....... a native solution is always best... which for some reason........ i dont understand why it wont be implemented.... its such a common feature in so many software and can't possibly be difficult to code.

'assign apps to a monitor' suggestion -- ive tried that, ive used dual monitor for years and i know how it works naturally

so yes its a bug.

[Jeff]

Your original post sounded like you didn't want it to minimize at all. Minimizing to the taskbar is different. It's in my notes, but will have to be evaluated after the v4.1 release which is closed for additions.

can't possibly be difficult to code.

Best if I just leave this as "no comment."

so yes its a bug.

A "bug" is unintentional or unexpected behavior, so this is not a bug.

[biatche]

Regarding minimizing -- Minimize to taskbar -- YES. Minimize to system tray -- NO. So when I click minimize itll minimize to just the taskbar. Organized and easy clicking for me to bring back up pop peeper.

But yes, I need to manually drag pop peeper to my 2nd monitor each time i restart the program. I could create another topic for this... if necessary...... I hope I don't need to resort to writing and AHK script just to put poppeeper in the correct position...

[mjs]

Regarding minimizing -- Minimize to taskbar -- YES. Minimize to system tray -- NO. So when I click minimize itll minimize to just the taskbar. Organized and easy clicking for me to bring back up pop peeper.

What you've presumably done is pin a PP shortcut icon to the taskbar which provides a way to launch PP from that shortcut icon located there (which I've done as well). That is in reference to your previous post:

ive done a workaround for the minimize to tray problem by pinning the program to taskbar.

But yes, I need to manually drag pop peeper to my 2nd monitor each time i restart the program. I could create another topic for this... if necessary...... I hope I don't need to resort to writing and AHK script just to put poppeeper in the correct position...

Is what you mean by the post below that you tried the 6 steps enumerated in my previous post above that reportedly worked for someone in that help blog but in your case it did not work for you?

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'assign apps to a monitor' suggestion -- ive tried that, ive used dual monitor for years and i know how it works naturally

Did you take a look at the app someone mentioned in the blog I previously linked: MAXTO?

Here is a website that you might take a look at if the above hasn't been of any help to you; 30+ Apps for Your Multiple Monitor Setup many of which are absolutely free (many others virtually free at just 99 cents).

[Jeff]

As I said in my previous post, your suggestion has been added to my notes for consideration, but it is too late to be considered for the very next release.

[Bilbo]

Also requesting this feature: Minimize to Taskbar not Notification-tray.
Is this setting available in the Tweaker maybe?

[Jeff]

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The "minimize button minimizes to tray" option has been added for v5.

While I was thinking about it just now -- I've also added a command ID that will perform a minimize to taskbar. What this allows is a macro key can be added in PPtweaker (thus allowing you to change "esc" from "minimize to tray" and instead use esc for "minimize to taskbar") and allows adding a toolbar button.

So to clarify -- this isn't exactly a "no minimize to tray" option, but it's a "minimize to tray or taskbar" option, which I think provides much more flexibility. For example, I use the above option (which means minimize will minimize to taskbar), but I never intentionally minimize PP to the taskbar (to be fair, this is probably just an old habit since PP has never supported this feature in the 18 years it's existed); but it still has the advantage that when I WinKey+D (minimize all windows), POP Peeper remains in the taskbar instead of hiding to the tray.

btw, I think I'm going to change the text from "minimize button minimizes to tray" to "minimize button hides to tray" -- I think that's clearer, no?